Dan Pfister is the Founder of WinBack Labs, which helps companies win back lost customers. He has generated over 50,000 customers, allowing him to work with brands and notable figures like Fidelity Investments and Tony Robbins. With over 20 years of marketing experience, Dan generated 57x ROI from his first win-back campaign.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
- [2:07] Dan Pfister’s background in marketing and how he founded WinBack Labs
- [4:23] Why do businesses focus on acquiring new customers rather than retaining existing ones?
- [6:30] A process for winning back customers
- [9:36] Frequent reasons customers leave
- [12:18] Leveraging systematic data to win customers back
- [21:22] How to prevent customer churn
In this episode:
Customers leave for many reasons, and it’s not always because they’re unsatisfied. Businesses often acquire new customers rather than winning back churned ones, believing they’re a lost cause. However, these customers hold the highest ROI potential. How can you reengage them before it’s too late?
Customer retention marketer Dan Pfister leverages a proven system to win back lost customers. It involves identifying why your customers left and whether it’s profitable to reengage them. You can accomplish this through qualitative and quantitative surveys. Once you have a list of customers you want to retain, Dan advises determining their needs and creating additional value through personalized offers. You can also prevent churn by communicating with your customers consistently and encouraging them to provide feedback.
In the latest episode of Systems Simplified, Adi Klevit talks with Dan Pfister, the Founder of WinBack Labs, about winning back lost customers. Dan explains how he leverages data systems to reengage customers, why customers leave, and how to prevent them from going.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Adi Klevit on LinkedIn
- Business Success Consulting Group
- Dan Pfister on LinkedIn
- WinBack Labs
- Customer WinBack Podcast
- “Breaking the Barriers to Process Implementation With Jon LoDuca” on Systems Simplified
- “Processes for Wisdom and Knowledge Transfer With Jon LoDuca” on Systems Simplified
- Million Dollar Winback: How To Win More Sales in Less Time and at a Lower Cost With the Winback Marketing Framework by Dan Pfister
Quotable Moments:
- "The unhappiest customers are your biggest source of learning."
- "People leave for all kinds of reasons; they don't all leave because they're mad at you."
- "Your real value comes from understanding why customers left and what it'll take to win them back."
- "Your past customers' last touchpoint has a disproportionately large impact on future engagement."
- "Successful win-backs transform detractors into advocates through care and competence."
Action Steps:
- Identify and prioritize past customers for potential win-back: Focusing on high-value previous customers increases the probability of reengagement.
- Conduct win-loss analyses to understand the reasons behind customer departure: This insight allows businesses to address underlying issues, preventing future churn.
- Create a value-based offer that addresses past customers' reasons for leaving: A tailored approach to customer concerns demonstrates attentiveness and care, enticing them to return.
- Craft messaging that aligns with what you learned from the win-back research: Effective communication resonates with customer experiences, increasing the likelihood of a positive response.
- Establish a continuous feedback loop with current customers to preempt churn: Regularly engaging with customers keeps businesses proactive in addressing issues before they lead to attrition.
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